I remember back during the general election. I would talk about Hillary Clinton’s obvious corruption and how this corruption took away any chance I ever had of voting for her and over and over again I would be met with the same ridiculous straw-man argument
“So what?! You want Trump to win?!”
No. Believe it or not, someone can dislike Hillary Clinton and still hate Donald Trump.
It’s like I’m saying “I’m not in the mood for pizza.” and someone starts yelling at me
“SO WHAT?!? YOU WANT BURGERS THEN?!?”
No thank you.
It is possible that I could just want neither.
I like Bernie Sanders.
Gimme some soul food!!
But this silliness knows no bounds.
Specifically, I am referring to the left’s inability to grasp that one can accept that the DNC screwed Bernie Sanders out of the Democratic nomination, while simultaneously believing that Putin favored Trump and probably worked with Julian Assange to assist in his election.
“OH MY GOD!! BLASPHEMY AGAINST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JULIAN ASSANGE!!”
While I am all for freedom of information and LOVE LOVE LOVE (!!) that Wikileaks published the DNC emails, I do not believe for a second that Assange did this out of the kindness of his heart.
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend and I am far too skeptical of a person to just accept someone’s motives as pure, without a thorough examination of the evidence.
Do you honestly believe that Assange is some huge fan of America and just loves our Democracy SO MUCH that he released the DNC emails just to be really helpful?
Isn’t it much more likely, given his relationship with Putin and the fact that Wikileaks chose to NOT release any negative information regarding Trump, that Assange has an agenda?
Assange’s back is literally against the wall, sitting in an Ecuadorian embassy. He knows for a fact that Hillary Clinton will pressure the Ecuadorians to turn him over into U.S. custody. This gives him motive.
Is it possible that Assange may have been promised protections by Trump and Putin in exchange for publishing information that lead to Trump’s rise to power?
ASKING THIS QUESTION DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU ARE EXCUSING WHAT THE DNC DID TO BERNIE SANDERS!!
IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU ARE THINKING!!
Assange may hate Hillary Clinton, but merely hating a corrupt politician does not make one pure.
Assange has ample motive to help Trump get elected.
If Clinton were elected, his days were numbered.
“OH BUT I AM ARMED WITH A MEME THAT SAYS THAT WIKILEAKS HAS NEVER HAD TO RETRACT A STORY!!”
It’s not about whether the leaks are true or not.
Wikileaks does not fabricate information.
But why did Assange attack one corrupt candidate while leaving an equally corrupt candidate alone?
It’s a question everyone should be asking.
I fully accept the DNC’s corruption and am personally DELIGHTED that Hillary lost, but that does nothing to alter the VERY REAL possibility that Donald Trump is in collusion with Vladimir Putin.
Putin is the same person who helped prop up Chechnyan dictator Ramzan Kadyrov who is currently rounding up and exterminating people FOR BEING GAY!!
Putin is the same person who usurped the Ukrainian election, in order to keep them from becoming part of the European Union and murdered thousands of unarmed people when they resisted!!
Putin is known for interfering with other people’s democracies.
So why so quick to dismiss this as a possibility?
“OH BUT SETH RICH WAS MURDERED BY THE DNC AND THAT PROVES…”
What does Seth Rich’s murder prove?!
He was alone, late at night, in Washington DC, one of the most violent cities in America.
Perhaps he was killed as part of a gang initiation.
Perhaps he was killed by an enemy that he created that was not political in nature (ie a relationship gone wrong, etc).
Perhaps he WAS killed by the DNC or perhaps he was a loose end that Putin needed to tie up to make sure that he was not implicated.
I would not trust the DNC or Vladimir Putin.
Neither of them have earned our trust.
As a skeptic, I would never rule out anything, but if you are CONVINCED that the DNC killed Seth Rich I submit that your overwhelming hatred of Hillary Clinton and the bitterness that you feel regarding the DNC’s mistreatment of Bernie Sanders has interfered with your judgment.
Truth is a casualty for those whose utmost concern is being right.
I don’t KNOW a goddamned thing, but here’s what I think.
I think the DNC is corrupt and that they screwed Bernie Sanders over to insure that they could have their corrupt, corporate candidate in charge, because she was already bought and paid for and would do EXACTLY what her corporate donors wanted her to do.
The DNC used the media to “elevate” Trump, because he was the least likely to provide a legitimate challenge to Clinton. Clinton believed that with such an obvious xenophobe running against her that even those who hated her would show up to vote for her, resulting in an easy win for the Democrats.
When Putin realized that Trump was likely to be the GOP nominee he struck a deal with Trump that he would use Wikileaks to show his opponent’s corruption, while agreeing NOT to expose Trump’s wrongdoings.
James Comey, a die-hard Conservative, refused to prosecute Clinton, because the GOP knew that if Clinton were indicted, then Sanders would be the nominee and that Trump would lose in a landslide. Comey did not make this decision alone, of course, but was under tremendous pressure from the right to allow Clinton to walk away free, while simultaneously saying some version of “Any normal person would be prosecuted.” which of course made the left even angrier and less likely to vote for Clinton, just as the GOP planned.
Since Trump has continued to embarrass the Republicans, thereby making it harder for them to keep their seats in 2018, the same Republicans who pressured Comey to allow Clinton to continue on as the Democratic nominee, now want Comey to implicate Trump for Russian collusion, so they can scapegoat Trump and hold their seats in 2018.
Trump’s tax returns likely show some kind of Russian business connections that would further implicate him with Putin.
Trump fired Comey because Trump is a loose cannon who makes knee-jerk decisions and Trump believes that by firing Comey and replacing him with someone who will stop the Russian investigation he can take the heat off himself.
Trump is wrong.
Trump is not a smart man.
Trump has exhausted his usefulness to the GOP.
The GOP is imploding.
Trump’s days are numbered.
The DNC corruption and the Russian collusion are likely related, but that does not mean that one cannot be absolutely disgusted by the DNC’s shady dealings, yet still be very concerned with the Trump-Putin relationship.
Some would argue that Comey’s firing by Trump, proves that Comey was not attempting to help Trump win in the first place. To believe this would be to take an overly-simplistic view of what it meant for the GOP to face a badly damaged Hillary Clinton.
The reward for the GOP wasn’t simply the fact that a damaged Clinton hobbling through the general election helped the possibility of Trump winning, but what was much more important to the GOP was the fact that the Dems running a corrupt candidate meant a suppressed leftist voter turnout, which lead to the GOP maintaining control over the House and Senate, which of course, is where the real power lies.
While the DNC was busy elevating Trump, the GOP was busy damaging Clinton, but they DID NOT WANT HER INDICTED BECAUSE HER INDICTMENT MEANT A SANDERS PRESIDENCY, WHICH MEANT A HIGH VOTER TURNOUT, WHICH MEANT THE DEMS COULD GAIN CONTROL OF ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
These oligarchs play dirty and they play to win.
I’m just a skeptic.
I don’t KNOW anything.
Be wary of those who say that they do.